I had the honor of being interviewed for the “Of Dust & Divinity” podcast. It was a great conversation and it was released this week!

My favorite part is the second half of the episode when we start talking about embodied spirituality and the importance of place.

At the end I talk about trees and rivers and seasons in contrast to the McDonalds and Walmart brands of suburban spirituality.

Give it a listen and let me know what you think. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/bo-sanders-church-is-just-mcreligion-other-lessons/id1516429851?i=1000530170174

I also continue to love my pod-chats with Randy Woodley on “Peacing It All Together”. In our most recent episode we talk about life lessons to celebrate a monumental birthday for Randy and do some listener feedback about such topics as:

  • Trying to change an organization
  • Implicit Bias
  • Dis-ability and Intersectionality
  • Respect and Equality in Relationships

Check it out at